Saturday, 2 October 2010

Iain Gray - not a statesman!

Something to consider for the Scottish Parliamentary elections next year: Iain Gray isn't much of a statesman.


Regardless of whether the Scottish Parliament is independent or not, it's surely a matter of common courtesy and respect not to demean other nations for party political gain. Again and again, Labour politicians are more than happy to slag off other nations in order to demonstrate how poor, wee and stupid they believe Scotland and her people really are.


The trouble is, these other nations might hear Mr Gray. They might not be too impressed. If Mr Gray was in charge of Scotland, such public denouncements might even result in damage to Scotland's trade and diplomatic relations. After all, would you want to deal with a man who clearly has no respect for you?


Mark Coleman, the Economics Editor with NewsTalk in Dublin and columnist with the Sunday Independent, can be heard on the iPlayer (around sixteen minutes in) giving his rather pointed reaction to Iain Gray's comments at this weeks FMQs. He says:


"...Looking at 10 years of Labour leadership has left Scotland unfortunately with a GDP per capita that's significantly lower than the EU average and the EU, so perhaps the credibility of that remark should be filtered through that simple fact.

"All I will say is that Ireland's population is a million higher than it was 14 years ago; we have a quarter of a million more employed, a quarter of a million more in work than we did a decade before; we have a quarter of a million people in Ireland now working from other EU countries, a GDP per capita 30% higher than the EU average...

"...Have we taken a blow, we certainly have. Are we still standing, we absolutely are."


Labour's argument is painfully backwards - it's obvious that despite their current difficulties, Ireland isn't interested in rejoining the UK, Iceland isn't going back under the wing of Denmark, and for that matter none of the small successor nations of the former USSR are looking to cede their hard-won sovereignty back to mother Russia. Yes, some nations are facing hard times but none of them are questioning their independence.


Managing your own finances is just one of the many things that normal independent nations do every hour of every day. Scotland is not uniquely incapable of doing the same, despite what Labour would have us believe. The main barrier to independence is Scotland's own self-doubt.


Until independence comes around, we need someone to fight Scotland's corner, to win friends and gather as much support for the development of our nation and our economy. Building solid relationships with our neighbours and other smaller independent states is a good start.


I've decided to reproduce Iain Gray's questions from FMQs. You can judge for yourself whether this man is capable of leading Scotland.


Iain Gray: It was one of those clear autumn mornings this morning when we feel like we can see for miles. Where should we look for the First Minister's arc of prosperity today: Australia, New Zealand, Spain, Iceland or Ireland?


The First Minister: I think that we should take a variety of international examples in following best practice in Scotland. As Iain Gray knows, I recently visited Norway and made a number of announcements about renewable energy and collaboration in Scotland. One thing that particularly impressed me as I visited Norway was the £200 billion oil fund that that country has accumulated by having access to its own natural resources. Would that Scotland had been in the same position over the past 30 years.


Iain Gray: The fact of the matter, of course, is that Norway's oil fund has been built up because Norway—


Members: Is independent.


The Presiding Officer (Alex Fergusson): Order.


Iain Gray: It is because the Norwegian state still owns its oil and gas industry. If the First Minister is proposing to nationalise the oil and gas industry, he should probably tell us. [Interruption.]


The Presiding Officer: Order.


Iain Gray: It is no surprise that when the First Minister is asked about Ireland nowadays, he talks about Norway. The First Minister once said:

"I am sure that most of Europe's Finance Ministers would give at least one limb—possibly more—to have Ireland's problems".

Today, the cost for Ireland of bailing out the Anglo Irish Bank reached €34 billion. The finance minister warned that its failure would destroy Ireland's economy.

Which limb would the First Minister give to have that problem?


The First Minister: Iain Gray will forgive me if I correct him on his understanding of the Norwegian oil fund. The Norwegian oil fund was built up from

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revenues from oil—not just from Statoil, the Norwegian state oil company, but from all the major oil companies exploiting oil in the Norwegian sector. It is unbelievable! I thought hitherto that Iain Gray opposed the concept of Scotland benefiting from its own natural resources because he wanted Westminster to have them. I now realise that it is because he did not even understand the proposition. I will send Iain Gray a paper on the Norwegian oil fund. Given that so much is changing in Labour and given that new Labour is buried, despite Iain Gray's attachment to it, if all the policies are changing, who knows, maybe Labour will be in favour of an oil fund before long.

I point out two things to Iain Gray. First, on direct capital investment in the Scottish banks, currently the Treasury is making a profit, given the current share price of Lloyds and the Royal Bank of Scotland. [Interruption.] That is a fact nonetheless. Secondly, Ireland, like many countries, has substantial economic problems at present, but I note that its wealth per head is actually higher than that of the United Kingdom.


Iain Gray: It was an Irishman who said that there are none so blind as those who will not see. Ireland is teetering on the edge of collapse, and Scotland's banking sector is 10 times the size of Ireland's. The Royal Bank of Scotland alone had a balance sheet 15 times the size of the Scottish economy. The investment in saving those banks was £470 billion. Will the First Minister admit that, in an independent Scotland, RBS and HBOS would have collapsed and the Scottish economy would have collapsed with them?


The First Minister: Just as Iain Gray confused Statoil with the Norwegian oil fund, he is confusing capital injections into banks with general support for the financial and monetary system. The capital injection into the Scottish banks is now making a paper profit for the UK Treasury.

Iain Gray says that the Irish economy is on the brink of collapse. Judging from Labour's conference, I thought that it was the UK economy that was on the brink of collapse. The Labour Party has argued, with some justification, that the UK Government is risking a double-dip recession because of an approach to an austerity programme that goes too far and too fast in its cuts in public spending. I agree with that proposition on the basis of the evidence from Ireland. If that is the argument that Iain Gray is putting forward—that, unless an alternative policy programme is agreed, the UK risks moving into a double-dip recession—does that not support the argument that we should look to European countries such as Norway, which have avoided that by mobilising their natural resources to power

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their economy forward? I would that we could do the same in Scotland.


Iain Gray: Support for the Scottish banks was £470 billion—£70 billion capital injection, £100 billion special liquidity scheme, £100 billion credit guarantee, £200 billion asset protection scheme and £10 billion in fees. The Government may get some of that back, but if it had not had it at the time when it was needed, we would have suffered the consequences. Everyone in Scotland knows that, in a separate Scotland, our two biggest banks would have gone and, with them, all the jobs, savings, pensions, mortgages and salaries. Everyone in Scotland knows that we would have tipped over the edge on which Ireland teeters today. Is Alex Salmond the last man in Scotland who does not realise that his personal obsession with independence is daft, deluded, deranged and downright dangerous for this country?


The First Minister: Alex Salmond realises that it is only with economic powers for this Parliament and this Government—the economic powers that would be delivered by independence—that we will have an alternative to 10 years of despair and public spending cutbacks in the United Kingdom.

As they also say in Ireland, if I was going there, I would not start from here. That applies to Iain Gray's questions. He has confused the capital injection into the banking sector that is taking place in Ireland at the moment with general financial support for a monetary system. The two things are entirely different. It is not me who claims that there is a profit to be gained from the capital injection into Lloyds and RBS; that is in the Treasury documents—not just the Treasury documents of the new coalition, but the Treasury documents that were produced by Iain Gray's old boss, Alistair Darling.

Ed Miliband evoked a new atmosphere of consensus at the Labour conference when he said that he would not attack policies to restrict short-term sentences and say that people were being soft on crime. As Ed Miliband moves in a sensible political direction and supports the SNP Government's policy on crime, which has been so successful, will not Iain Gray eventually realise, in that changing atmosphere, the obvious, inarguable point that only in our having economic powers and growing the Scottish economy is there any alternative to being at the mercy of coalition cutbacks, two thirds of which were started by his own party?


9 comments:

Bugger said...

Iain Gray is a small town cooncillor and not a very good one at that.

The Peter Principle in action.

Darwinian evolution may intervene soon enough

The Wheeling Whaup said...

An excellent piece - really must get back to an odd blog now and then but really not had the time. Do like the reaction from Ireland. How can we publicise this to our folk who are so 'cushioned' from these things?

cynicalHighlander said...

Iain Gray is unemployable outside the Labour political bubble a very sad specimen of humanity. Darwin doesn't work over one generation it takes a few to alter genetics unless one goes down the GM route, not recomended.

Bugger said...

Darwin does work, within a generation.

Something stupid and fatal is all that he is required to do.

In politics that is the name of the game and he surely must be close to crossing the finishing line.

Personally I hope he lives a long political life as he is such an aid to the SNP.

wee folding bike said...

You can have your computer download FMQs as a podcast to listen to at your leisure.

http://www.scotland.gov.uk/News/This-Week/Broadcast/Podcast/FMQs

tris said...

Great post.

Iain Gray is a spiv.

He reminds me of the sort of man you'd expect to encouter in a city centre pub in the middle of the afternoon. Half full of beer and the totally full of half facts and misunderstandings.

I cannot remember one thing that he has ever got right.

His insult to Ireland, full, as it is, with twisted half understood "facts" is the same sort of diplomatic faux pas as was made by the erstwhile Scottish Secretary about Ireland, Iceland and Norway, with serious diplomatic consequences. What must these sophisticated nations think of our second rate politicians, not even fit to sit on a small town council.

I think Scottish Labour politicians should just go back to the pub and drink themselves into oblivion.

Fred said...

Pretty daft of Iain Gray to bring up the subject oil economics, one which he evidently knows nothing about, against the one politician who probably knows more on the subject than anybody else, considering that was his previous job.

I'm looking forward to 12 noon today to watch Alex Salmond wipe the floor with Iain Gray again, and possibly Annabel Goldie, who has not had the best of weeks in her party.

joe90 kane said...

Brilliant article and an excellent point BB - these British politicians taking some kind of comfort in the supposed pain of smaller countries like Icelnad and Ireland is pretty callous to say the least.

Just on the subject of population - it is ironic that more people coming to live in Scotland wouldn't go amiss - but because of London-centred xenophobia we're having to fight to keep such undoubted talents in our own wee nation as Gemu, and such beautiful gems that would grace any community as Florence and Precious Mhango.

Our problem in Scotland isn't over-crowding but under-crowding. Scots used to comprise 10% of the British population - that is down to c.6%.

Here is the excellent Salma Yaqoob. Just to say that if the authorities down south don't want foreigners in then send them up to Scotland so we can try and have them 'naturalised'. The more the merrier -
Blaming asylum seekers will not tackle housing crisis
Salma Yaqoob
11 Oct 2010

Anyway, I hope you and the rest of the family are well.

Take care!

joe90 kane said...

Here is the Scottish Labour Party in the foreign capital of London, slagging off our near neighbours - and it seems to me, a bit confused as to wether Scots are actually subsidy-junkies, who need London to pay for their unaffordable affluent life-styles, as they used to claim so vociferously -
Banking Scotland
Westminster Hall Debates
Houses of Parliament
They Work For You
14 Oct 2010

Under Thatcherite-New Labour neo-liberalism, I thought it was bankrupt sectors of the economy that shouldn't be subsidised, especially by the taxpayer, and that the state shouldn't be allowed to nationalise failing industrie such as the finacila sector.